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Post by Leonknight Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:25 pm

Metaknight is on the top spot for the SSBB tier list? FK THAT!!! he is so easy to fight against, no way could he be #1
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Post by Claire Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:42 pm

This has been common knowledge since the beginning of time, unfortunately. I suck with Metaknight, and rule with Link(the 2nd or 3rd worst in the game), so out of sheer fandom, I bend the rules of the tier list.

Metaknight is terrible if the computer is using him, but some tournaments actually ban Metaknight from play simply because some people exploit his attacks and camp the whole battle. I'll agree that with enough practice, you can be cheap as hell with MK, but for someone like myself who lacks the memory and willpower to learn all the techniques required, MK remains my worst character.

Every fighting game in the world has a tier list, they never make sense to me, even Dissidia's, although it changes with Equipment and level. Games like Blazblue where every character is so balanced that it takes the hardcorest of players to make a tier list, makes less sense to me. Zane the pure plays more competitively than me, so he can explain it better.
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Post by Leonknight Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:32 pm

blah even metaknight campers are easy to beat... -.-;

but then again i use a guy who is 6th on the tier list <<;

marth ftw!!!
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Post by Zane the pure Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:29 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z7TWtUF5Oc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdmwKfPchms
and many others on youtube, as well as the player named M2K
WTF?! 7_1_lg

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Meta_Knight_(SSBB)
an article on why, and If you need any other proof, I can send you replays over wifi of I, Alucard, Felix, and many others fighting a friend who plays meta knight. You'll notice that I am usually the only one overcoming his MK in particular, due to my 1500+ hours of practice vs his barely 50 hours.

How may you ask that he can compete with people who play well, and some who practice? Meta Knight.

What is your response?
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Post by Claire Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:47 pm

Metaknight has an extremely high learning curve, at least when I use him. I prefer fan-based characters, like Snake and Link, can't barely use Snake, but at least I enjoy using him. I'm a natural when it comes to Pikachu, though.

The character I most prefer to use is Marth, not by any fan based thing, because I hardly care for him at all, but because his move set is so easy to learn and counter is by far the best attack I've ever had the pleasure to exploit.
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Post by Zane the pure Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:04 pm

That's the thing though, meta knights learning curve is relatively low for a top tier character.

In Melee, Fox's learning curve was ridiculous, because without a good understanding of his weaknesses, he can be wrecked beyond belief.

MK however, can put a decent fight to most any player simply because everything about him works

5 jumps, 4 recovery options, disjointed sword range, fast attacks, high priority, and small/difficult to kill + his incredible DI for shorties?

No other Character in brawl has that many options/advantages/imbalances
That along with consistent top ten results in all major tournies are why he is the best.
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Post by Claire Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:02 am

Top Tier = n00b, someone who is supposedly that easy to use does not demand respect from me. If anything he demands an apple to the face. *mask block* FCUK!!!!
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Post by Zane the pure Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:33 pm

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Post by RYCloud92 Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:49 pm

I've always gone with the characters I like and never train to tiers.

I mean Sonic is a complete ass stats (one of the hardest to build up damage with, hardest to smash others of stage with) wise but I win most of my matches using him.

To the tiers though, I always thought it was based on which Character got through the furthest in official tournaments. In other words Meta is top of the tier because he is the character who is most likely to win the most matches.

I dont know tiers confuse me
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Post by Claire Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:37 pm

I just hate it because it created what I call Tier Whores, people who have no fan-based system in their strategy, they just use characters they think will make them win. They never rely on their skill, but expect the characters to do it for them. That's why the term, "The greatest player in the world is a Metaknight!" pisses me off.
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Post by Zane the pure Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:38 pm

There are people that hate the character they use, and only play them because they're good with them...

Me + Falco...
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Post by Claire Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:44 pm

I've only done that when I was seriously injured in pride and desperate for a win.

Now seeing as I've not won a single Brawl match in about 3 years, I have no pride left, so I just play with whoever I feel like at the moment.
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Post by Zane the pure Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:35 am

There is a reason you haven't won

but you wouldn't like it
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Post by Claire Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:08 pm

Lack of skill, and willpower to get skill, I am well aware of this, my friend. lol
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Post by RYCloud92 Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:30 pm

If I have reason for sucking its because of lack of a shield because I'm using wii remote sideways
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Post by Claire Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:53 pm

Is that bad?...
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Post by Zane the pure Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:38 am

Shield is essential to smash games
using the sideways wii mote is the worst scheme out of the four because of its limits... but if you just like disadvantaging yourself, have fun.
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Post by Claire Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:27 am

Some people get a kick out of it.

Critical Mode.
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Post by Zane the pure Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:37 pm

EDITED FOR LAW BREAKING lol
just kidding


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Post by Claire Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:05 pm

That song is not allowed on my site, it's illegal.
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Post by Zane the pure Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:04 pm

well then I suppose I'll just have to torture you with mah hacks then.
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Post by RYCloud92 Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:37 pm

Zane the pure wrote:Shield is essential to smash games
using the sideways wii mote is the worst scheme out of the four because of its limits... but if you just like disadvantaging yourself, have fun.

Only use it because my Gamecube remote is screwed up, not got money for a classic controller and my hands just feel really weird with Wii Remote and Nunchuck (the only game on my Wii that I dont feel right using this setting)

I have customised it so grab is - that way I can hold grab for 2 seconds and it will let me shield but besides that I havent really got a sheild.

Though I have done fairly good since I got it and havent been on for awhile. (a total record of 6004 KO's, 4182 of which Belong to Sonic and 914 belonging to Snake.)

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Post by Zane the pure Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:13 pm

Ehh kill count doesn't matter much, but Good luck using that weird style.
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