Dissidia 2 Confirmed

@RY, needed a magnifying glass to see Jecht there. lol

^If only III were good. TwT

More details on the save data thing, from Final Fantasy Wiki (so take it with a pinch of salt)

"Save data from the original Dissidia will be able to be transferred to Dissidia 012, such as character levels and as a bonus, you will receive a special accessory. The storyline of the original Dissidia, adapted to the new story gameplay mechanics, will be playable after the new storyline of Dissidia 012 has been completed"

Looking at the boxset it does seem to make sence with illustration, I have no idea how the last bit works though.

And about release dates it seems March is going to be the release date, but I wouldn't hold me breath just in case.

Also a screen of what Yuna's Dissidia artwork looks like, I am trying to find this screen of her battle footage but can't find it anywhere.


Also not really anything new just an old statement that may give some new insight on who the remaining two characters to reveal might be.

"Tetsuya Nomura has stated that for a potential sequel, he would like to include Kain Highwind, Gilgamesh, and Sazh Katzroy, but would not include Kingdom Hearts characters. Nomura had previously expressed a desire to have Kain and Lightning in the first Dissidia, but they were left out."

In honesty my money is on a villian for XIII and Gilgamesh, but I'll wait and see what happens.

And final note, Tifa's 4th costume (the red amato design) is only available if you buy the special edition. No one knows yet what her 3rd costume will be but my money is on the obvious (it has to be the Cow girl)

Amano's Tifa design isn't far from Nomura's, so no point in getting it. I can't see her other costume being the cowgirl, since they're not including much if at all from the spinoffs, I don't see it happening without an uproar from the community.

Yuna's only just been announced, so we won't see battle footage for a while. And that release date for March would be for Japan only, we won't be hearing anything of ours for at least 7 months.

^The cowgirl outfit was in the original game. And it is 3 costumes a character this time (with Cloud, Tifa and Lighting getting 4 including DLC)

I wouldn't even think twice on it being multiplatform, Dissidia is for PSP only and should stay that way.

I hope Yuna doesn't have her gunner outfit, pointless and unflattering. Rikku has no hope in being in this being a sub-main character.

As a extra costume I wouldn't be surpised but Yuna is Summoner all the way.

Also new trailer here, sorry for the crap quality


Big hint towards a FF V character being revlealed next (come on Gilgamesh), also the trailer shows footage of Yuna's game style.

Also link to the Japanese site for those (like me) who have trouble trying to get onto it normally (I've been redirected to the UK/US site 20 times now)
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dissidia_012/

it would make more money if it was multiplatform, (that would be the smart thing to do)

^That can be said about every video game in the world. I think the main reason Dissidia is on the PSP is simply because it's basically a side game for square. A quick game to make some extra profit whilst working on other titles (XIII Versus example). The only way I could see them being bothered to make a home console version is if they ported it straight for home consoles rather then rebuilding it and upping all the graphics. However then you'll get graphic obsessed gamers complainning about quality.


Also found a better quality version of the trailer I posted previously


Done some more research, there will be a special Prologue game for download before the actual game comes out. Upon completting this game and keepin the save will allow you to have Aerith as an assist. (she can be seen at the end of the trailer (blink and you'll miss her)

For those who don't know anything about XI (like me), the new FF XI character is a character called Prishe. (fun fact she was originally going to represent XI in the first Dissidia)

Well the first Dissida was dreamt up as a basic fighting game to celebrate the Series. Know I may be wrong but I dont know if Square have ever really made a fighting game before, so that could also be a reason why they decided to make it for a handheld.

In my opinion the fact it's handheld is an added bonus. There aren't that many games that I enjoy constantly playing whilst I'm out and about (Crisis Core, most Nintendo made nintendo DS games and ports of old games come to mind), so being able to put my headphones in on the bus and play a game like this to pass the time is one of the things I like the most about it.


Anyway now that all the characters have been revealed I suppose what to discuss next is the costumes (3 for all characters (1 extra for returning character, 2 for the new ones in other words)), DLC, stages and the soundtrack (which is apparantly going to have twice the amount of songs as the previous)

On the soundtrack side so far they are going to add.

Final Fantasy - Underwater temple
Final Fantasy III - Battle Theme
Final Fantasy V - The final Battle
Final Fantasy VII - Jenova
Final Fantasy VIII - Force your way
Final Fantasy XII - Esper battle


On the costume side I reckon Yuna's Gunner costume will be her 2nd alternative and this (pictured below) will be her 3rd.


As I said earlier I'm really hoping Tifa's 3rd will be her cowgirl outfit but I would be pleasantly suprised to see her Wall market dress). Gilgamesh I wouldn't be suprised if his GF form (from VIII) was one of his costumes (though as there are many Gilgameshes (and the fact he can change his form) it could be any of his other appearance designs). Laguna's 3rd I'm betting will just be his Amato design though someone from another site put forth the idea of his knight costume from the movie he starred in, wouldn't mind seeing that myself. Prishe...I have no idea. Same for more or less all the others. And finally for Lightning, well I was originally thinking Serah's outfit but now that I have seen the trailer for XIII.2 I'm going with the armour from that.

(List of characters that havent had there 3rd costume revealed yet (that I am aware of)
WoL
Garland
Firion
Emperor
Gilgamesh
Tifa
Laguna
Zidane
Kuja
Yuna
Prishe
Vann
Gabranth
Lightning (4th DLC costume has been revealed, but nothing on her 3rd yet))

Looking at footage of Ehrgeiz I'd say there is big massive difference between how they play. Kinda like saying Arkham Asylum and Spider-man are the same type of game because they are both let you play as comic book characters.

Another thing to take into account, if square went Multi platform with this there is a high chance that one version is going to have to be the half assed rushed version which recieved the least work on it or the entire game is going to be a whole two year project (and thats a loose, minimum estimate of how long it may take to make) to make sure both games are up to their own respective consoles highest standards (this is based on previous examples of other company Multi platformed games (Sonic Unleashed for example has a faster frame rate on the PS3 using the Hedgehog engine (though suprisingly I found the Wii one to be far superior (but thats slightly off topic))).

You'll notice that Square tend to develop their games with one particular product in mind most of the time. XIII is a great example because they used all the space a Blu Ray disc could offer, and for the 360 version they just cracked the game in two halfs basically.

First off. Gilgamesh. He is in. Fucking finally, stop making a new trailer every time you need to take a shit for fucks sake, show us pictures and work on the game rather the hype. But wait, this is Square we're talking about. They love this shit. Remember XIII's pre-release? It was FUCKING RETARDED. And we were given a dog turd wrapped in gold paper and we ate it out of the palm of their hands.



I personally don't care if its for consoles or for handhelds, they STILL make MILLIONS OF FUCKING DOLLARS. I think keeping a game on a certain system is called... oh yeah GOOD MARKETING. Do you know how many fucking people went out to buy a PSP just to play Dissidia? Square made a special PSP package of a white FF PSP, Dissidia and VIIAC in one package and fans came in their shorts. It was brilliant and we fell for it completely. Square made money, Sony made money and we are in the palm of their hands because they keep showing us more and more shiny things to buy. And when Birth By Sleep came out, they released another PSP bundle and once again, fans went ballistic.

There would be hardly any difference if Dissidia was on PS3 and 360. The money would go into just graphics and even then, Dissidia's FMV's are on par with XIII's so then they would just put the money into advertising it because Dissidia's in game graphics take the PSP to its very limit. Everything else would be exactly the same if it was on PS3 and 360. Story, Voiceovers, Music, Nomura's faggot ass directing and taking large chunks of the budget to make MORE AND MORE TRAILERS. The only way to fix the "mistakes" you guys see with Dissidia is if you walking into Square Headquarters and kidnap the president and completely change the production team of the game with people OUTSIDE Square or if we get Sakaguchi and Uematsu their jobs back. It doesn't matter if you get rid of Nomura directing, the guys behind XIII would jump in and they think exactly like him. "Animetastic game that appeals to the newer fans" and frankly, these guys have been clogging the fandom ever since AC's release.

They will never put every character into the game because a lot of them are not liked. The first Dissidia I saw more of a test of peoples reactions and they used the Main Heroes and Villains because they have the biggest fandom. Yeah, Auron and Tifa and Locke and Vivi are all popular but they are nowhere near as popular as Tidus and Cloud and Terra and Zidane. The Main characters PLEAD for love and fans give it. They are the most popular characters by all fans. Now that Square confirmed that they are mulit-billion dollar masterminds, they created Dissida 2 with more of the fan favorites. Some characters we love that are our personal favorites like Amarant will be pushed aside for the more popular characters like Auron. Square also will not make a game with every character or a huge play list because then it makes more fans angry, so Square rubs their hands, make Dissidia 3 with 6 additional characters and people will buy the game, Square makes even more money and fans bitch. Its a viscous cycle but gaming companies like to sell out and make more money.

No one ever said video gaming was going to be a cheap hobby.

Honestly Cap'n, don't buy it.
Go ahead and be negative from day till night, but Square doesn't care.
Don't waste your breath

So, Imma go ahead and enjoy duodecim.
ESPECIALLY now that Gilgamesh is all but confirmed.
WoL
Garland
Laguna
Gilgamesh
here I come.

Zane the pure wrote:Honestly Cap'n, don't buy it.
Go ahead and be negative from day till night, but Square doesn't care.
Don't waste your breath

I already know I'm not going to buy it but I'm going to say my opinion whether you care or not.
So acting like Mr. Fucking "I'm Cool" won't shut me up.
;O

Sorry Erel, the coment was not intended as a point of lecture, but more as a reminder. I don't particularly remember directing it towards anyone, yet I digress.
I apologize if you were offput by that.
(probably weren't but meh...)

And though The Cap'n may have the right to an opinion, constantly downing on something you'll never do, seemed pointless to me.
And the "Mr. Cool" act was meant to take the edge out of such hostility. Seems ineffective.
Not gonna post the rest because it's severely off topic.

So, "Long time, no see Bartz"
is the jist of what Gilgamesh said. In case if anyone wondered.

Another point I forgot to add is that the PSP is really in need of exclusives. Like you mentioned Erel most people don't bother with one, so I wouldn't actually be suprised if Sony and Square had some deal together for them to keep making exclusive FF titles for the handheld (notice that the last 4 Square PSP games. Crisis Core, Birth By Sleep, Dissidia and the upcoming Dissidia 012 all have their own exclusive PSP designs). Another thing to take into account is that the PSP is highly popular in Japan for the same reason the Wii is. It's cheap, and since this title is more targeted towards the Japanse audience (in the fact that the one of the exclusive DLC (Clouds KH's costume) is only available if you buy Birth By Sleep Final Mix) then the western it makes sense to put it on one of the systems the majority own.

Just a lowdown on the last recorded console sales in Japan
PS3 - 5 million since April 13th 2010
360 - 1,236,000 since March 2nd 2010
PSP - 15 million since December 28th 2009


Thanks Zane, it was actually driving me mad. Need to learn the language one of these days.

Also discovered what Lighting's 3rd costume is, it's going to be based on the female guardian corps artwork.


Bartz seems to have his original sprite look as his 3rd costume


Tifa's 3rd has also been revelaed to be her cowgirl


Yuna's first alternative has been revealed and it may suprise some, it's her wedding dress.


Vann's 3rd seems to be based on his Tactics outfit


Found a piece of the artwork for Gilgamesh


Prishe's artwork for anyone who cares


Kain's 2nd and 3rd costumes


I'm going to search high and low for proper images but for now this is all I have

@Cap'n, took you this long to tell Zane off? Jeez. He uses "respectable" big words in every day speech. :/

Okay, I had to read all that to get anything out of it, and Cap'n basically riddled everything down in his post to the T. Why do I say that? Because I'm one of the contributors who bought a PSP for the sole purpose of PLAYING THIS GAME. Lucky for me, there are other excellent (and SHITTY) games for the PSP, but that's for another topic. I gave up valuable money that I really want back for Birth by Sleep as well, I even went to the trouble of preordering and waiting 4 months getting ever so excited for it and was SEVERELY disappointed by the ending. But Square got their weekly check, so they produce more sequels for games nobody except me really cared for and we'll most likely be disappointed by the way this turns out. The day Nomura gets booted out the office will be a day of celebration at my house, since I'm the only person in Texas that really, really hates this guy.

But, ever since Enix merged with Square, they developed the greatest financial strategy ever, build up tons of hype, then release it for preorder, maybe bump the date a little, then release what they have at that point. Usually the story is crap cause no one cares much at Square anymore, they're mostly letting Enix do the work. But, since we're such big fans, we'll pay top dollar to see what they have and usually DEMAND FOR MORE, either out of great interest or great need of interest. Square needed money, and Enix delivered, disappointing the audience, but getting their money all the same.

Square, even now is thinking of ways to save and make money with this sequel, like reprising almost all the horrendous IV DS voices for Duodecim. Liam o' Brien has no right voice acting, with barely an exception for a single role in a game I barely played, so why pick on Kain?

As for Yuna, her battle system seems more like a pupper master type thing, which means I will barely touch her. Her EX Burst is outside my play range as well, reprising a particular Shotlock style out of the unmentionable Birth by Sleep. Although, I'd like to see her Amano costume for shits and giggles. Her wedding outfit made me laugh too, but it's a really good outfit for her. :p

Aside from all that...
Gilgamesh was confirmed at least 2 or 3 weeks ago, cause I've known about his inclusion for a few days now, just forgot about it. This game is honestly looking up with all the comic acts being thrown in and balancing out the utter UNFUNNYness of the first one. Bartz literally got dumbed down for this game, no argument from anyone with a brain, I assume.

Well Yuna has one more costume to be revealed, but I never remember seeing an Amato design.

Her playstyle from the vid I posted seems to be very fast paced and normal. The aeons are just part of her moves.

I predict lots of Machimas involving Yuna getting Married

RYCloud92 wrote:

This would be Amano.

Serious! But all his other artwork paled in comparison to that.

On a side note, read up on the Aerith DLC assist. Apparantly according to ign.

"There are two major catches to Aerith's appearance, though. First, she will only appear as an assist character. Assists are a new feature for Duodecim that lets you call out a support character to briefly assist you in battle. It looks like this is the only way Aerith will appear in the game. In other words, you won't get to control her as a playable character.

The other catch is that the only way to unlock Aerith as an assist character is to hand over some pre-release money to Square Enix. On the Japanese PlayStation Network today, Square Enix released a paid demo for Duodecim. Those who have save data from this demo will gain access to Aerith in the final version of the game.

The paid demo is such a big deal that Square Enix has given it its own name: Dissidia Duodecim Prologus Final Fantasy. The demo includes arcade mode and story modes of play, the latter with an original scenario that connects to the final version's story. You won't find the demo's scenario in the final version of the game."

More screens of Yuna too




Also just noticed something looking at the art of Gilgamesh. He's facing the right, which may confirm that he is on the side of Chaos. No suprise there really but thought I'd point it out.